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From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr (Stefan A. Deutscher)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: So, how's the GUI version coming?
Date: 3 Nov 1998 10:41:30 GMT
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On 2 Nov 1998 18:36:34 GMT, Frank da Cruz <fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu> wrote:
>In article <363daea0.0@news.ic.net>, Michael Kairys <kairys@mi.sl.com> wrote:
>: Heven't heard mention for quite a while...
>:
>We're still working on it :-)
>
>Very briefly, the problem is not so much the GUIness per se (which is
>of course in itself a "stout" piece of work), but maintaining our base
>of common code.
>
>Somewhat less briefly... As you may know (it's no secret), Kermit 95
[ cut ]
>The current plan is:
>
> . Finish and release C-Kermit 7.0.
> . Release K95 1.1.18, which will be based on C-Kermit 7.0.
>
>Then the GUI.
>
>Incidentally, I don't necessarily subscribe to the view that All Must Be
>GUI. The command line is quite powerful, flexible, and even user friendly
>if you take the time to learn it -- and Kermit 95, like other communications
>software, demands that the user invest some time in learning because its
>domain is uncontained and uncontrolled. In the case of Windows 95 and 98,
>however, GUIness is important for quite a different reason -- to escape the
>countless bugs and aggravating limitations of the Windows console
>environment (to name just two: we can't use a Unicode font, and we can't
>do graphics emulations such as Tektronix). So you can be sure this is a
>priority for us.
I couldn't agree more: Console / command line is often way better
(leaner on resources, for instance) and usable remotely. I do telnet
into my OS/2 box and then go on from there, neither Windows' nor OS/2's
graphics system are network transparent (X is), so a command line client
is needed to use stuff remotely. The only thing that keeps me longing
for a graphical terminal is Tektronix emulation, so I can see quick
plots and such without having to start up X(Free). I once used a full
commercial Tektronix emulator under DOS and needed only a small number
of its features, so I'd be happy with that. Alas, I recall reading that
the OS/2 Kermit will remain text mode only?
>All of this will take quite a few more months. In the meantime, I like to
>think that Kermit 95 is quite useful in its current form. It has the added
>benefit that most of its thousands of functions can be activated without
>your hands ever needing to leave the keyboard.
Right. Appreciated by people who use a computer most of the day.
Cheers, Stefan
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